Showing posts with label honda. Show all posts
Showing posts with label honda. Show all posts

Sunday, February 12, 2012

Dovizioso: Honda, Yamaha Polar Opposites



Jumping from three seasons aboard a Honda to Yamaha has been a major eye-opener for Andrea Dovizioso, who moved from Repsol Honda to Tech 3 Yamaha this season.

Both bikes are produced by Japanese manufacturers, use Bridgestone tires and aluminum frames, but the similarities almost end there, Dovizioso said last week during preseason testing at Sepang.

"We came from Valencia with a few problems, but I knew I have to adapt my style to Yamaha because it's really different," Dovizioso said. "I can say opposite. Because the philosophy of Yamaha and Honda from history is always opposite: Honda tried to have the best acceleration and Yamaha the best handling. I have to change everything.

"I'm working a lot to adapt and I've made a big improvement from Valencia, but there is more to do. We also tried to adapt the electronic system for my style and Yamaha style, because I arrive with the mentality of Honda and I tried to ride in the same way, but it didn't work."

In the July 2011 Indy teleconference, then Tech Three Yamaha rider Colin Edwards said that in 2010 he used a chassis that was at least two years old, giving an idea the update status of Tech Three.

source: superbikeplanet.com
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Tuesday, August 23, 2011

Nakamoto on the importance of fuel consumption



When Repsol landed in the official Honda HRC team back in 1995, one of the main objectives of the Spanish energy company and its Japanese partner was the joint development of their own fuel and lubricant that would offer new characteristics compared with what was being used at the time.

With an intense joint effort the Repsol and HRC engineers developed the fuel of the current 4-stroke bikes and the success soon came. The introduction in 2012 of the 1000cc engines is a new challenge for the researchers at the Repsol Technology Centre and for the HRC engineers. To speak about the importance of research, development and innovation in top level racing there is nobody better than Shuhei Nakamoto, Honda HRC vice-president and spearhead of the Repsol Honda Team in the Motorcycling World Championship.

“Thanks to the fuel that our partner Repsol supplies to us, consumption has been reduced; our engines use a little less and that is due to the fuel. We work very closely with our partners, in fact, we have a test MotoGP engine at the Repsol Technology Centre of the company in Mostoles. For some time our engineers have been travelling to Madrid regularly to collaborate with them and their Spanish counterparts do the same, visiting our headquarters in Saitama”, explains Nakamoto.

In the World Championship, working at the top level and managing significant budgets, consumption is not supposed to be an important factor, but one of the technical rules that regulates a MotoGP bike's construction is the limitation of the fuel tank's capacity to 21 litres. That means that for Sunday's race the premier class bikes have a limited quantity available to complete the required number of laps. Taking into account that those bikes have great power and need to keep their competitive level during the whole race, to achieve a lower consumption was undoubtedly a great challenge for the Repsol and HRC engineers.

“There are two notable aspects when it comes to fuel. The first one is that good fuel must offer a significant improvement to the engine's set-up and its response, making the power curve more usable. The second important point is consumption and its reduction, which allows good fuel, always keeping the same performance level. This becomes even more difficult when at the time of developing a fuel you need to take into account the current FIM regulations, as before it was easier to find points for improvement, especially in the power department, but now the FIM applies many restrictions to fuel development”, states Nakamoto.

“And another of the challenges for racing fuel and lubricant is to keep the engine in perfect conditions during the maximum possible number of kilometres, thus increasing its lifespan”, adds the head of the Repsol Honda Team.

“The combustion process is the result of mixing fuel and air. A basic concept is that you can have the same performance and power with more air and less fuel. This way fuel is saved and the weight of the bike is reduced. Due to the evolution made by our HRC personnel together with the Repsol engineers, we achieved a fuel that, despite offering the same performance as fuels from other brands, allows us to reduce consumption and, at the moment – with the 21 litre limitation – is a particularly valuable feature. We can say that with the fuel developed jointly with Repsol we achieved a better proportion between fuel and air”.

Added to the technical requirements are concerns for the environment. “The rule of having a tank of a 21-litre maximum capacity is a great challenge. We had to adapt ourselves to the environment and starting with the experience we have in MotoGP, we can apply that knowledge afterwards to other engines of daily use for the road. Both Honda HRC and Repsol are concerned about the environment, so our work is aimed at reducing consumption and emissions, but always keeping the highest performance level in such a technically demanding competition as the MotoGP World Championship”.

With that in mind the knowledge exchanged between Honda HRC and Repsol is constant. The MotoGP experience is transferred to the Honda factories and the Repsol service stations. “Both in Honda HRC and in Repsol we are very conscious of the importance of environmental care, so we use technical solutions in racing that we know that when applied to production engines can offer more performance while respecting the environment. Japanese environmental and emissions regulations are very strict, so we have a lot of experience in that field in production engines. In fact, I am able to confirm that the development of the 1000cc bike engine we will use the next season has some aspects of the technology of production engines that Honda equips in specific models of its production bikes”.

Continuing with the consumption concept, Nakamoto adds: “While last year the development of the fuel jointly with the Repsol engineers was focused in achieving the performance of the 1000cc engine we are developing, this year our engineers and Repsol's centred their job in consumption and in reducing it to the minimum possible quantity. The new 2010 regulations offers us a great challenge: same fuel capacity (21 litres) for higher displacement and power with the 1000cc engine. Thus the key will not be to achieve a higher horsepower, but to reduce the consumption for a higher performance. It is a great technological challenge for the Honda HRC and Repsol engineers”.

”These new rules are an incentive to keep working for the environment. This leading fuel technology that is being developed by Repsol will be available, sooner or later, in their service stations, thus benefiting the final costumer and, above all, the environment”, concludes Nakamoto.

Press release courtesy of Repsol Media Service
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Tuesday, August 16, 2011

Honda wants decision on 2012 works riders for Indianapolis Grand Prix



Honda racing boss Shuhei Nakamoto says a decision on the future of Marco Simoncelli and Andrea Dovizioso is set to be made by the next race in Indianapolis.

Nakamoto had said last month that Honda was set to reduce its budget for next year, meaning the Japanese manufacturer is likely to have just two works bikes in 2012.

He said only Dani Pedrosa and Casey Stoner were likely to get works rides.

Honda currently has three works bikes with his official team, but gives the same equipment to Gresini's Simoncelli.

Nakamoto said he is not entirely happy with the performance of the Italian riders, but insisted Honda will do all it can do retain them, with a decision expected in two weeks' time.

"I'm not happy about them," Nakamoto was quoted as saying by Gazzetta dello Sport. "Marco goes well in qualifying, but then he's had some problems in the races. Andrea has improved, he's third in the championship, but he's not at the top yet. We want to win and at the moment they aren't winning.

"But we want to hold on to them and we'll try to, even though these are difficult times. For sure, as a racing department, there will be a decrease to our budget, which will be defined in September.

"But we can't wait that long: we need to find an agreement by Indianapolis. We'll talk to Simoncelli and Dovizioso and we'll try to keep them. We have no preference, because they both have positive and negative sides."

Nakamoto said Gresini would have to pay to have another works bike from next season, and he suggested a German rider, believed to be Moto2 championship leader Stefan Bradl, will also get a ride with Honda next year.

"We can give Gresini a second bike, but he needs to pay for it. By contract we need to field two bikes, but we'd like to build four, in fact they'll almost certainly be five. The fifth will be ridden by a German-speaking rider. If someone asks we could build up to six bikes."

source: autosport
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Casey Stoner and Dani Pedrosa test 2012 RC213V prototype



It was a positive day of testing with both riders giving valuable feedback, which will allow the HRC engineers to continue the development of the new machine. As scheduled, the test began at 09h00 under dry conditions and finished at 18h00 with one hour lunch break. Fortunately, the rain that was expected did not arrive until the final 30 minutes of the day, when the Repsol Honda Team had already finished their programme.

Czech Republic GP winner Casey Stoner, who already tested the RC213V in the Jerez test, was the fastest rider on track with a lap time of 1’56.168. Completing a total of 57 laps, he and his team took some important steps forward in the development of the 2012 machine.

Dani Pedrosa made his debut on the new machine as he missed the first test session held at Jerez on May 17th and 18th due to injury. Dani made the most of the dry track to study the new bike and give important feedback to the HRC engineers. In total he completed 37 laps with a top time of 1'57.264, the fourth fastest of the day.

HRC engineers will now take time to evaluate this data from both riders and decide how to proceed with the development of the new machine.

Casey Stoner: 1st - Time: 1'56.168
"Today was another good shakedown, but we still have some work to do. We found a few positive things and confirmed certain directions to take and move forward. We had a few small problems with chatter, but it's something that shouldn't be too difficult to sort out through engine braking and engine management systems, which are areas we can definitely improve in, along with the chassis. The engine for me is fantastic, to ride the 1000 with more grunt and more power it's a lot of fun, it has incredible acceleration, most of the time too much! We tested a couple of the new tyres and had some issues, the traction didn't feel that great and they seemed to create a lot more chatter so we went back to the standard tyres and the chatter seemingly disappeared. From the data we have from the first test and this test, we can go away and come back with the next step and take it from there."

Dani Pedrosa: 4th - Time: 1'57.264
"First of all, I'm very happy to have tested the 1000cc because rain was expected, but it didn't arrive until the end of the day. My first impression in the morning was that the feelings were quite similar to those I had when I first came into MotoGP, you can feel the difference in torque and power. Perhaps I was still riding it with an 800cc style and I need a little more understanding again and try to ride it differently, but the bike seems to work quite well. We will make many modifications, so the final version will be very different to today's bike, but this is normal and the first impression is quite good. Compared to the 990cc I rode in 2006 it's very similar on the power side, but a little lighter in weight and behaviour. I tried one run with the prototype Casey tested in Jerez, and also the other one with some modifications and it was a bit better. With a new bike, electronics, engine, chassis, everything is not the best, but from my experience in the past with new bikes, the starting point is not so bad. We have to be very careful with the chassis because perhaps the tyres next year are a little different in construction which will affect the chassis."

Repsol Honda press release.
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MotoGP stars complete Brno Test



Yamaha debuted their developing 2012 prototype on track at Brno on Monday and Honda continued the evolution of their 1000cc machine, as the premier class remained for an extra day at the Czech Republic track for an official MotoGP Test.

With the weather allowing a full day of riding Yamaha Factory Racing riders Jorge Lorenzo and Ben Spies had their first shakedown of the 2012 prototype, with Lorenzo second on the timesheet with a best time of 1’56.253 from 28 laps on the evolving bike. His team-mate Ben Spies also enjoyed riding the new machine, setting a best effort of 1’56.306 from 24 laps which placed him third fastest, and the American ended his day early at the midway break. Both riders also rode their 800cc M1 machines, in which they tested new engine parts, a new fairing and chassis components.

In the Repsol Honda garage Dani Pedrosa was another rider who had a first taste of what the 1000cc capacity machines will offer next year, as the Spaniard rode the 2012 bike for the first time. He ran two 2012 machines with differing set-ups, registering a best time of 1’57.264 from 37 laps as part of a methodical workload. His team-mate and current Championship leader Casey Stoner also rode Honda’s 2012 spec bike – his second outing after riding at Jerez back in May – and was quickest around the Brno circuit with a time of 1’56.168 as he enjoyed the benefits of an updated chassis.

Valentino Rossi worked through a heavy schedule with his Ducati Team on the Desmosedici GP11.1, the bike he is riding this season, putting in 74 laps and posting a best effort of 1’58.266. The Italian tried a range of set-ups, focusing primarily on riding positions and bike height. Team-mate Nicky Hayden rode an initial early-morning run on the GP11 before focusing on the GP11.1 for the rest of the day, and the American was pleased with his progress as he lapped at 1’57.533.

The Marc VDS team were also present as they continued testing the Suter 2012 prototype. Mika Kallio got his lap time down to a 2’00.144 in a highly productive day, as he made big steps in the development of the bike – his fourth Test on it.

Elsewhere, Monster Yamaha Tech 3 riders Colin Edwards and Cal Crutchlow were both present, the American testing Bridgestone tyres and a Yamaha electronics package and the Brit a revised setting similar to the one he rode earlier in the season on their respective 2011 M1 bikes. Toni ElĂ­as (LCR Honda) and Loris Capirossi (Pramac Racing) were also both at the Test, as each rider looked to improve on what they had found during the GP weekend.

source: MotoGP Official Website
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Saturday, August 6, 2011

Marco Simoncelli wants Honda offer in Brno


Marco Simoncelli has told Honda he wants a new contract offer by the next race in Brno as speculation mounts that Ducati is preparing to launch an audacious raid for the Italian.

Simoncelli has no intention of quitting Honda, but he's yet to be offered a new deal by the Japanese factory heading into the summer break.

Honda is still finalising its budget for 2012 and rumours have emerged that the delay in offering Simoncelli a fresh deal has alerted Ducati management.

Ducati is reportedly willing to test Simoncelli's loyalty to HRC by tabling a bid for the Italian, even though close pal Valentino Rossi and Nicky Hayden are already under contract for next season.

Simoncelli's management consultant Carlo Pernat told MCN: "Now we are waiting for the offer from Honda. We asked for an offer in Brno. For sure Ducati is not staying calm and they are interested in Marco. Marco wants to stay with Honda, but if Ducati can arrive with an offer, he would have to think about it. The first choice is Honda and I'm sure that he will stay with them."

Ducati boss Alessandro Cicognani though brushed off suggestions that a formal approach had been made to Simoncelli.

He said: "No, not at all. We have our riders signed for next year with Nicky and Valentino and we will stick to this."

source: MCN
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Monday, May 2, 2011

Repsol Honda Riders Commented About Estoril Race

Estoril Podium


This is what's Honda riders says about their performance on Estoril. Pedrosa took the champion, Stoner on 3rd, and Dovizioso make a fantastic take over of Valentino Rossi on last second before finish line.

Dani Pedrosa
"I'm very happy for today's win, but more than the win, I'm happy for my condition and it seems that my surgery was finally successful. I was trying to rest my arm at times as it was cramping with 15 laps to go. I was riding behind Lorenzo and waiting for the numbness to come together with the loss of power, but it didn't come! I'm just so happy to see that the surgery has worked, it's been around six months with this and it's a big relief. For the race, I was riding at my best, Lorenzo is amazing here, always riding so smooth and fast and I was trying to stay with him. In the end, I felt comfortable and tried to make a move and I was successful. I'm very happy to win here, it's my first win on this track and thanks to all the doctors, my physio and trainer because it's been hard work and finally we got a win.”

Casey Stoner
"We had a pretty good start to the race but Pedrosa moved across me and I had to hit the brakes and back off. After that, I was challenging Marco Simoncelli for 3rd position in the first turn and he cut me off which I'm not so happy about. Then in turn 4 he crashed and I lost the tow to Pedrosa and Lorenzo. I didn't really have a lot of confidence in the first laps with the rear tyre, it didn't seem to want to work so well, especially on the left side, I nearly crashed a few times so I slowed down a little. Then during the race at some point, I felt my back completely lock up on me and I couldn't move for three or four corners. I was struggling to do anything and had no breath. I thought I had to go back to the garage, but thankfully within half a lap it eased up a little, got better and we managed to finish, so I'm very happy to stay in 3rd place today.”

Andrea Dovizioso
“After a difficult weekend we had a good race, with the best lap at the end and a good strategy to overtake Valentino Rossi. I was riding at the limit during the whole race and Rossi was stronger in 2-3 points, so it was difficult to overtake him. I pushed hard to keep contact with the Ducati and at the very last lap, I tried to overtake him at turn 10, even though I knew that it’s a difficult corner to overtake. Then at the very long last corner, I tried to pass him on the inside, Rossi closed the door, so I tried to exit faster than him. I made it and I passed him on the straight with the tow. I’m happy with this result but we are still too far from the first rider. We need to be competitive from the first day if we want to fight with Pedrosa, Stoner and Lorenzo, so it’s good to have a test tomorrow where we can work on set up and electronic system.”
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Thursday, April 21, 2011

Burgess : Honda Must Win in 2011


Legendary crew chief Jerry Burgess was commented about Honda. It's now or never, this year Honda is making a very big push. No doubt about that. Casey Stoner was injected fresh impetus. It was obvious that Honda was going all guns blazing to try and win the 2011 MotoGP.

“Honda is making a very big push, no question about that. They haven’t won seriously since 2003. I know they won in 2006 but I know the mentality of the people at Honda and if you don’t dominate the races through the year it is not the same feeling."

"They couldn’t go out every Monday and put an ad in the paper and says Honda wins. They could put an advert saying they were world champions after Valencia but that’s a lot less advertising than pounding it into the paper every Monday morning. They’ve been trying for a number of years but the big expectation is that this has got to be the year, “said Burgess.

“The Honda group has bounced well off each other. If one rider is having a bad day he’s got all the information of the others to say ‘why am I having a bad day? It must be me rather than the bike.’ Casey is clearly the fastest rider at Honda."

"Dani will say history shows that he’s more consistent than Casey and less likely to make a mistake but Casey is now on a bike where he doesn’t have to doubt his own judgement. He’s not the leader of the team, he’s just guiding himself and that will give him an enormous amount of confidence to the point where it might take away from Dani.”

source: MCN
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Saturday, August 7, 2010

Honda RC212V

Specification of RC 212 V


Overall length(mm)2,052
Overall width(mm)645
Overall hight(mm)1,110
Wheelbase(mm)1,435
Road clearance(mm)115
Weight (kg)over 150
Engine Type Liquid-cooled 4-stroke
DOHC4valve V-4
Displacement(cc)800
Maximum power(kw)Over 155
Frame Type Alminum Twin-tube
Front wheel(inch)16.5
Rear wheel(inch)16.5
Front suspension Telescopic fork
Rear suspension Pro-link
Fuel tank capacity(liter)21


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